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Romeo & Juliet, Move Over: How an Israeli-Palestinian Love Endures Despite Occupation

Debra Shushan's Conversation with Sari Bashi, Author of Upside-Down Live

Against the backdrop of the US-Israeli war against Iran that is roiling the Middle East, I had the privilege of hosting Sari Bashi to talk about her wonderful and important book, Upside-Down Love: A Memoir in Two Voices.

While the conversation is an exclusive benefit for The Debrief’s paid subscribers, I’m happy to share a couple of clips with everyone.

The entire discussion is wonderful, so I do hope that you’ll take this opportunity to support The Debrief with a paid subscription, if you don’t already.

Conditions in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza During the War vs. Iran

Sari, an Israeli-American Jew, lives with her Palestinian husband and their mixed family in the occupied West Bank. In the first clip, I asked Sari how they are faring during the war and about conditions in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza during this latest war:

How Can Love Survive When One Partner Is Free & the Other is Trapped?

In our subsequent conversation about Upside-Down Love, we spoke about the power dynamics reflected not only in her relationship with her husband (who goes by the pseudonym Osama in the book), but also in the writing and publication of her book. Here is one exchange:

I hope you enjoy the full conversation and I’d love to hear your reactions. (I’m sure Sari would, too!) If you haven’t yet read Upside-Down Love, you can get it here.

More Coming Up This Week!

Tomorrow (Thurs, March 5):

I expect to be on THE LEFT HOOK with Wajahat Ali in the afternoon. I don’t yet have a time to share. I’ll post on my Subtack chat when I know details and if you’re set up to receive Substack notifications from The Debrief, you’ll receive one when Waj and I go live.

Waj and I will focus on the war against Iran, but if you’re a fan of The Left Hook, you know the conversation can go anywhere!

Friday, March 6 at 9am Eastern:

Earlier this week, I attended a private roundtable in DC at which Eran Etzion shared his analysis and insights into the US-Israeli war against Iran, holding a room of Middle East policy experts rapt with attention. A former Deputy Head of Israel’s National Security Council and strong opponent of PM Benjamin Netanyahu and his right-wing government, Eran has a fierce intellect, strategic acumen, and impressive candor. I always learn from him and I’m delighted to be share him with The Debrief’s audience at this pivotal moment.

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